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Tuesday, 6 August 2013

The Debate over 9/11 Truth: Dick Eastman vs. Jim Fetzer

Posted on 12:37 by som

by Jim Fetzer (with Dick Eastman)


Dick Eastman and I are going to have a public debate over whether or not the Twin Towers were hit by Boeing 767s, which he claims is true but I deny. It will be held on The Mike Harris Show on Thursday, 18 July 2013, from 3-5 PM/CT on the Rense Radio Network. So those who care about these issues may want to join us. It will be a two-hour program with the time to speak allocated impartially between us about a crucial bone of contention regarding 9/11.

As the founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, it has been my fate to receive attacks from all sides, including "the thermite sniffers" (Steve Jones, Kevin Ryan, and their allies) but also by "the plane huggers" (including Anthony Lawson, and Dick Eastman), not to mention the members of the Judy Wood alliance, which displays the features that are characteristic of a cult. I am not claiming they are a formal cult, but behave as though they were by having the mentality of those who are locked into a feeling of certainty, will tolerate no criticism and blindly follow their leader.

The first group, "the thermite sniffers", has been defeated by a series of articles co-authored with T. Mark Hightower, a chemical engineer--"Has nanothermite been oversold to the 9/11 Truth community?", "Is '9/11 Truth' based upon a false theory?", and "Nanothermite: If it doesn't fit, you must acquit", which has been complemented by new research supporting the conclusion that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of mini or micro nukes, including "9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings II", "Mini-Neutron Bombs: A Major Piece of the 9/11 Puzzle", and "Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11".

The situation with the Wood's cult--which includes the dogma of DEWS, the sacred text, Where did the Towers Go?, a mystical leader (Judy Wood herself), and a praetorian guard that viciously attacks anyone who questions those views (as 3,000 attacks on me for an originally 5-star review, now downgraded to 3-stars following The Vancouver Hearings, vividly displays)--is more complex. While we disagree about how the Twin Towers were destroyed, key members of this group, including Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds, agree with me that no Big Boeings--757s at Shanksville and the Pentagon, 767s at the North and South Towers--crashed on 9/11, which makes them allies on this aspect of 9/11.

Morgan was the first to make a public splash about "no planes" when he appeared on FOX NEWS in 2008, which appears to have been a set-up to discredit him when the anchor brings up the idea of "no planes" given the videos "the rest of us saw", as though any of us who deny that Boeing 757s and 767s crashed on 9/11 had not seen them.  He did what he could on that show:

More importantly, Morgan published a piece by Joe Keith, who was the software engineer who designed the on-ground "shaker system" for Boeing, who points out that the videos show the plane (Flight 175, presumably) passing through its whole length into the building in the same number of frames it passes through its own length in air, which is impossible--unless Newton's laws were suspended on 9/11!  Notice that Joe describes himself as an "aerospace engineer" because he is a software engineer who worked in the aerospace industry, not because he is an aeronautical engineer, which is another classification.

It was Joe's argument that convinced me that no Boeings had crashed on 9/11, which has come to be known as the "no planes" position.  But Anthony Lawson and Dick Eastman appear to have no grasp of elementary physics and have both attacked me again and again for my position, which they assume to be false, given the limitations of their understanding.  The only attack on me that comes close to the one launched by Dick Eastman was advanced by Kevin Ryan, who, like them, did not understand the issues, as I explained in "The Debate over 9/11 Truth: Kevin Ryan vs. Jim Fetzer".  I am glad to report, therefore, that he appears to be redeeming himself with a new book on 9/11, ANOTHER NINETEEN (2013), which I have yet to read but which others are telling me looks very good to them.
Dick Eastman has attacked me many times, where I am publishing this together with my replies in exactly the same sequence of sentences and exchanges that appeared during a recent email thread--the only exceptions being that I have introduced some formatting to separate one huge paragraph into several smaller and more manageable paragraphs, fixed a few typos on both sides, and have added some videos related to the "no planes" question.

True history of how the truth of 9-11 was thwarted and who thwarted it.


by Dick Eastman (with Jim Fetzer)


However he presents himself now in articles and on the radio, James Fetzer was one of a group who fatally hurt efforts to bring the true perpetrators of 9-11 to justice.   FALSE. AS BECOMES INCREASINGLY OBVIOUS AS YOU READ THROUGH THE RUBBISH HE HAS POSTULATED TO SUPPORT THIS FALSE DEPICTION, WHICH IS PROVABLY FALSE, HE HAS MISREPRESENTED ME AT EVERY TURN.  HE HAS NEVER READ MY STUFF AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE HISTORY OF SCHOLARS.

He gave massive attention to the no-planes-hit-the-WTC towers group that I many years ago named the "no-planers."  (They called me the "plane hugger" because I countered with others all their arguments stating that the planes were all "video fakery" (Nico Haupt's term), that the witnesses who saw planes were liars, that it would have been impossible for a "flying bus" (Morgan Reynolds' term) to penetrate a "steel building" and not bounce off (Gerard Holmgren's argument) and a dozen arguments which I answered, Peter Sault answered, Mark Bilk answered, Eric Salter answered. FALSE. SALTER COMMITTED A BLUNDER THAT WAS EXPOSED IN AN ARTICLE CO-AUTHORED BY MORAN REYNOLDS WHEN HE USED TWO DIFFERENT FRAMES OF REFERENCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS DECELERATION.

IT WAS A MISTAKE BUT THE MINOR KIND OF DECELERATION HE WAS CLAIMING -- WHICH IS NOT PRESENT -- IS NOTHING LIKE THE COMPLETE LOSS OF FORWARD MOTION THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE, AS I'VE EXPLAINED IN ONE ARTICLE AFTER ANOTHER EASTMAN HAS NOT READ:
“9/11: Planes/No Planes and ‘Video Fakery’”
“The 9/11 Passenger Paradox: What happened to Flight 93?” (with Dean Hartwell)
“Reason and Rationality in Public Debate:  The Case of Rob Balsamo”
“The ‘official account of the Pentagon attack is a fantasy” (with Dennis Cimino)
“Fakery and Fraud in the 'Official Account' of 9/11”
“9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings I”
I caught the no-planers in deliberate deception after deception to mislead people in support of their theory.  FALSE.  I WAS NOT A "NO PLANER" UNTIL AT LEAST MID-2007 AND MY VIEWS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE OF OTHERS MENTIONED HERE..  IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY REAL PLANE TO HAVE ENTERED THOSE BUILDINGS WITHOUT CRUMPLING AND EXPLODING.

I TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WITNESS REPORTS, WHICH EASTMAN DOES NOT UNDERSTAND.  AND I EXPOSED ANTHONY LAWSON AS PROMOTING RUBBISH YEARS AGO.  SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, "AN OPEN LETTER TO ANTHONY LAWSON ABOUT 'ABSURDITIES'".  HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN ELEMENTARY PHYSICS.  I HAVE EXPLAINED THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF THE "HITS" WERE SHOWN ON TELEVISION FOOTAGE MANY TIMES.  HERE'S AN EXAMPLE,
"Were the 9/11 crash sites faked?" (Seattle, WA, 13 June 2012):
Part 1  http://archive.org/details/scm-75926-drjamesfetzerinseattlejune1320
Part 2  http://archive.org/details/scm-75938-drjamesfetzerinseattlejune1320
Rosalee Grable and Holmgren met in Chicago and devised the "no-planer" thesis  -- I knew the both well  -- I had introduced Holmgren (an Austrailian) to American 9-11 investigators  -- having been an investigator since way before Fetzer, Reynolds or Haupt began their counter-intelligence operations against the American public.  FALSE.  I RESISTED THE VERY IDEA FOR AT LEAST 18 MONTHS OF BADGERING BY MORGAN REYNOLDS AND THEN BEGAN INTERVIEWING ABOUT 15 STUDENTS ABOUT IT BEFORE I BECAME CONVINCED BY THE ARGUMENT OF JOE KEITH, WHICH ANTHONY HAS DONE HIS BEST TO MISREPRESENT.
HIS ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND ON MORGAN'S SITE AT NOMOREGAMES.NET.  JOE OBSERVED THAT THE "PLANE" PASSES THROUGH ITS OWN LENGTH INTO THE TOWER IN THE SAME NUMBER OF FRAMES THAT IT PASSES THROUGH ITS OWN LENGTH IN AIR, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS A 500,000 TON BUILDING PROVIDES NO MORE RESISTANCE TO A THE PATH OF A PLANE IN FLIGHT THAN AIR.

Not only did James Fetzer give the many who suddenly appeared all believing the no-plane-hit-the-WTC position -- but he also stated that their arguments had merit and deserved the foremost place he had given them at Scholars for 9-11 Truth  -- which he founded with Steven Jones and then took over for himself to lead  COMPLETE RUBBISH.  STEVE JONES LEFT SCHOLARS.  I DID NOT BOOT HIM.  THAT WAS HIS DECISION--AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH "PLANES/NO PLANES", WHICH AT THAT POINT IN TIME I HAD NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY

-- with the army of no-planers backing his power play  --  and himself presented the no-planes-hit-the-WTC arguments  -- as Fox News and the American Press Club and other networks started using him as the representative "9-11 Truther" FALSE HISTORY. I WAS FEATURED ON FOX THREE TIMES --TWICE WITH "HANNITY & COLMES" AND ONCE WITH O'REILLY-- BEFORE I TOOK "NO PLANES SERIOUSLY AND IT DID NOT COME UP DURING THESE INTERVIEWS

he and Morgan Reynolds (whom I knew at Texas A & M when I was in the doctoral program in Economics)  and who was with Karl Rove and Ted Olsen in the White House on Sept 11, 2001  so suddenly he shows up joining Fetzer and Holmgren and Rosalee and Haupt in saying no-planes-hit-the-WTC  FALSE HISTORY, SINCE I DID NOT TAKE AN INTEREST IN "NO PLANES" UNTIL MUCH LATER-- when he must have known -- if he was looking at the subject at all  -- that his old acquaintance from 1980-82 was arguing that Flight 77 did not crash at the Pentagon  -- which is in fact proven in a way that no one can question the proofs.

He must have known because of the I was the first to prove that witnesses were right about a large plane seen heading towards the Pentagon over the Naval Annex but that it flew over the Pentagon while bombs (see Barbara Honegger on bombs inside the Pentagon here and http://tinyurl.com/smokecurtain). GOOD FOR DICK EASTMAN, BUT I NEVER BELIEVED A BOEING 757 HAD HIT THE PENTAGON. WHEN I PUBLISHED ABOUT IT, HE ATTACKED ME, EVEN THOUGH HE AND I WERE (OR SO I THOUGHT) ON THE SAME SIDE. 

I was one of the first and it turns out one of the few that was not part of the Mike Ruppert Carol Brouillet group which immediately acted as gatekeepers -- keeping away the ones who knew what decisive and conclusive evidence is  (what is decisive and conclusive evidence?  THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.  I HAVE PUBLISHED MANY ARTICLES EXPOSING THE FRAUDS OF SANDY HOOK AND THE BOSTON BOMBING.

Dzhokhar Tsaranev's white backpack for example -- how can you respect anyone writing about the Boston Marathon Bombing who misses that (either through being really slow or because they are part of the obstruction of justice effort protecting the false-flag terrorism complicit Joint Task Force).   I POINT OUT THE WHITE PATCH ON THE BACKPACK FOR THE CRAFT INTERNATIONAL GUY WHO'S BACKPACK APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE TWO THAT EXPLODED.

All of my arguments were met Fetzer and all of the other no-planers with the same kind of response you just got when you forwarded my letter.  Fetzer  accused me of divisiveness because I would not tolerate putting "no-planes-hit-the-twin-towers" on the same footing NO, I HAVE ONLY FAULTED YOU FOR CRITICIZING ME WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING MY ARGUMENTS.  IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY READ THEM , YOU (Fetzer gave it top priority, along with Judy Woods ray gun thesis which was contrived to crowd out Dr. Steven Jone's discovery of thermite residues in WTC dust.  FALSE.  I FEATURED JUDY ON MY RADIO PROGRAM ON 11 NOVEMBER 2006 BECAUSE I HAD BECOME CONVINCED THAT NANOTHERMITE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE EVIDENCE, WHERE IN COLLABORATION WITH T. MARK HIGHTOWER, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN:
“Has nanothermite been oversold to the 9/11 Truth community?”
"Is '9/11 Truth' based upon a false theory?"
“Nanothermite: If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit!”
-- but that is another story about Fetzer that Jones and other physicists have told  --  and remember, Fetzer at first "made nice" with Jones to jointly found "Scholars for 9-11 Truth"  -- only to, in a coordinated effort with the dedicated no-planers crowd -- to take over Scholars from Jones and afterwards to pit Judy Wood's energy-beams-brought-down-the-WTC against the conclusive evidence that Thermite was used in the demolition  (as proven in laboratories in the USA and Europe) THIS IS COMPLETE AND UTTER RUBBISH.  I INVITED JONES TO BE MY CO-CHAIR AT THE SUGGESTION OF DAVID RAY GRIFFIN. HE AND I NEVER DISCUSSED "NO PLANES".  IT WASN'T EVEN ON MY RADAR UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR.  JUDY'S ALTERNATIVE DESERVED CONSIDERATION, IN MY VIEW, BECAUSE I WAS CONVINCED THAT NANOTHERMITE COULD NOT CUT IT. -- in fact, when a graduate student involved with "9-11 Truth"  (a cultish name  -- the real investigators refer to themselves as "9-11 (citizen) investigators".

Anyway, this graduate student was later walking down the sidewalk with two women when he was approached by two men and shot in the head twice, the women he was with were unharmed and nothing was stolen.  THIS WAS A TRAGIC EVENT THAT APPEARS TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 RESEARCH.  I SPOKE WITH THE DETECTIVE WHO INVESTIGATED THE CASE TWICE ABOUT IT. Knowing the role that Judy Wood and Fetzer were playing I speculated in a letter whether this graduate student had visited Wood's office and seen something on a monitor that he should not have seen  -- and guess how Judy Wood reacted?  Did she say I was crazy?  No.  Did she simply deny it?  No.  Did she ignore it as a suggest that is beneith being dignified with a response? No.  What she did was accuse Steven Jones of being behind the murder. Dr. Jones in another state.  WHAT JUDY THOUGHT ABOUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.

Dr. Jones being the most peaceful and loving soul one can imagine, a quiet conservative professor of Physics at Brigham Young University with no political or activist interests, beyond local public service (like most Mormons)  -- and that to me was a significant datum telling me all I need to know about Judy Wood and reinforcing all I had already known from direct experience about Dr. Jame Fetzer.  RIDICULOUS. I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND HAD NOT EVEN FEATURED JUDY WOOD ON MY RADIO SHOW.  DICK EASTMAN IS MAKING THIS UP AS FAR AS IT GOES CONCERNING ME.

Morgan Reynolds went to the no-planers rather than me  -- I was certainly known to him  -- and he never once contacted me before going to Reynolds.  The fact is that I was better known in November of 2001 than I am today  -- David Ray Griffin's first book  "9-11 The New Pearl Harbor" devoted half of its chapter on the Pentagon to my work, and the other half to Gerard Holmgren's who I introduced to the world when he first contacted me and I began including his articles on 9-11 in my postings.  Indeed Griffin had more references to Dick Eastman than to Condoleeza Rice  -- as me in my vanity readily recall.  Also I was on the Jim Valentine program with Christopher Bollyn  -- one of the few investigators who was for real and is still in action looking for the truth  -- Bollyn and I were interviewed on November 25, 2001  -- when we already had enough evidence of remote controlled planes and bombs in the WTC that should have brought down the organized crime Administration  -- were it not for the Karl Rovish operations involving  Mike Ruppert and Carol Brouillet  -- who became the leaders of ther "Truth Movement" and kept me out of every conference  -- Ruppert later said that 9-11 was irrelevant, and when the 9-11 commission opened up Ruppert left the country as a guest of  some non-profit group to discuss "peak oil" in several countries in Europe and Latin America.  I was outraged that he took everyones money and became the big spokesman  -- pushed me aside  -- and even threatened to sue me for harming his business (he is in the business of informing you, just like Alex Jones  -- who as far as I know still has never mentioned my name to any of his audience)  -- if it wasn't for Rense I would not have had a threat of hope to hang on to, btw  --  and so the big name 9-11 guy that took front stage  -- disappeared when it was time to present evidence.  I sent evidence and e-mailed evidence but it never reached the committee.  Some Jewish guy was the gatekeeper to the committee  -- and I asked him to forward my evidence  -- and was told by this Jewish guy, that he knew who to give my letters to and it wasn't the committee.  And I shared that with people  -- and still got the same zero response I get on social credit and Dzhokhar's white bag.  People are afraid to speak up  -- because they do not want to lock horns with an organization that shoots people in the head twice  for going against their obstruction of justice operations.  I have seen good men slandered and insulted and ridiculed until they gave up.  My friend Quig was a reporter and he talked to me on the phone and in internet about starting his own website, about how cop-vs-cia which was started by Ruppert and which was rejecting his 9-11 postings, they banned me  -- how he was going to start a website and post my stuff.  He was also talking to me about General Purdy, whom he know and had told about me, he wanted me to call Purdy  -- I was reluctant  -- I like the "merchandise" the truth to sell itself,  and so I hesitated.  When I did call Purdy it was to tell him that Quig had been run over in a parking lot in Arizona, by a pickup truck.  Quig had been carrying a piece of plywood when he was hit.  I told Purdy about Quig but I knew it was pointless to tell this know-it-all general what I knew without having Quig there endorse me.  (Because by then the false-theories  -- the planted absurd theories  -- were in full swing and people expected everyone talking about 9-11 to be a crazy unbalanced sort of person  -- a view which Nico Haupt cultivated and developed -- an agent from the Netherlands -- helping to cover the crime in which his Bilderberger queeen was doubless involved.  Haupt took my writings by the way and told me he was distributing them to everyone  -- he had built a data-bank of all 9-11 investigators and was communicating with them all  -- part of the operation to isolate and shut down the real ones and promote the false ones  -  like the no-planers, like the hologram plane people, the nuclear devices people and any fool theory or blind ally leading red-herring person.  There are videos of Haupt by himself disrupting real grass-roots citizen investigation meetings.  He just started talking and they guy who had the floor speaking to the group  - just could not continue as Haupt gave his raving talk  -- repulsing everyone -- not making sense, interjecting the no-planes-hit-wtc arguments  about video "fakery" etc.  And in that way good people gave up or were turned off on the very thought of looking into the matter.  And Fetzer sided with Haput, Reynolds, Holmgren and several others -- John Lear, the black sheep CIA-flying son of the Lear Jet man  -- he too a no-planes-hit-the-WTC operative. YES, AFTER I INTERVIEWED FIFTEEN GUESTS ABOUT IT AND BECAME CONVINCED BY JOE KEITH'S ARGUMENT, WHICH ANTHONY HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GRASP.

And Fetzer called on the Truth Movement to ban me because I am divisive and not "inclusive", not tolerant of other opinions all of which deserve a fair impartial hearing by qualified scholars  --   etc.   but Fetzer never allowed my findings to be presented in his Scholars for 9-11 forums  -- FALSE.  I HAVE NOT MADE THE PRACTICE OF BANNING ANYONE, ALTHOUGH DICK EASTMAN IS SLOPPY AND IRRESPONSIBLE, AND I HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATING HERE.
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He preferred Morgan Reynolds who gave weak and bogus reasons on TV and in mainstream media interviews  -- giving as his reason for saying Flight 77 did not crash:  "Where's the blood."  FALSE. I DID NOT COMMENT ON MORGAN'S "NO PLANE" POSITION AT THE TIME, SINCE I HAD NOT STUDIED THE ISSUE.  UNLIKE EASTMAN, I ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY THE EVIDENCE BEFORE I ADOPT POSITIONS ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

Now that was a valid question for most of you dummies (who do not see the importance of Dzhokhar's white backpack when the bomb was in a black one!!!!!  -- you swallowed it  -- you let Fox news and other media get away with showing Fetzer and Reynolds YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BOSTON BOMBING, WHICH ONLY OCCURRED THIS YEAR, WHEN THE FOX APPEARANCES WERE IN 2006!  and not showing them Christopher Bollyn or Dick Eastman  (someone bought the populist Spotlight newspaper, just to fire reporters like Bollyn, in my opinion, btw  -- but as I was saying, Morgan Reynolds knew -- from Karl Rove?  -- that you can always turn people away from the truth and make them dead-set against accepting the truth by getting there first and giving them stupid arguments for the truth, bad arguments for the right answer, arguments like, "where is the blood?"  which repel people, which insult them, which infuriate them, which make the whole question aversive to them  -- and that is what the media with Fetzer's and Reyonold's help accomplished  WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS HE TALKING ABOUT?  THIS VERGES ON THE INSANE

-- Reynolds and Holmgren and Wood are the kind of people that Fetzer showcased after he threw out Jones FALSE AGAIN. I DID NOT "THROW OUT" JONES.  THE HISTORY OF SCHOLARS IS DOCUMENTED AT 911SCHOLARS.ORG UNDER "FOUNDER'S CORNER" AND IN "WIKIPEDIA AS A 9/11 DISINFORMATION OP".  HE GETS NOTHING RIGHT.  and as he called for everyone to blacklist me because I am divisive.  I COULD HAVE CARED LESS ABOUT DICK EASTMAN.  I DID NOT EVEN KNOW OF HIS EXISTENCE UNTIL HE BEGAN MAKING THESE FALSE, MALICIOUS AND UNWARRANTED ATTACKS UPON ME
(Actually Fetzer started promoting no-planes and Judy Wood while Jones was still co-chairman of Truth  -- Jones objected to this effort to attach all of that crap to Jones work through the affiliation  -- and Jones protested and so Fetzer threw Jones out  THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE.  I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN "NO PLANES" AND DID NOT REMOVE STEVE.  HE DEPARTED ON HIS OWN AND WAS VERY NASTY ABOUT IT-- but Jones gave the laboratory discovery of thermite in the WTC dust  --  Fetzer gave us nothing  NANOTHERMITE CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE BLOWN THE TOWERS APART, AS T. MARK HIGHTOWER AND I HAVE EXPLAINED IN THREE ARTICLES THAT, LIKE MY WORK ON "NO PLANES", DICK EASTMAN HAS APPARENTLY NEVER BOTHERED TO READ. -- nothing but his puffed up pose as a scholar, which he sold to naive Jones -- and then when Jones had his name associated with Scholars for 9-11 Truth Fetzer brought in the no-planers.  THIS IS ALL RUBBISH AND IS PROVABLY FALSE.  CONSULT THE SOURCES I HAVE CITED HERE AND MORE.
I want that in the history books because that is what really happened.  None of the big names today are for real.  Jesse Ventura included none of the evidence of the Pentagon that is conclusive and compelling  -- he gave another version of the Morgan Reynolds argument.  You don't go from professional wrestler (all fake) and before that a trained killer for the Navy Seals  and then become Governor of a state  unless you have pleased the power brokers of high organized crime.  THIS IS DUMB.  EVEN IF JESSE DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE IT ALL RIGHT--HIS ENDORSEMENT OF NANOTHERMITE BEING AN EXAMPLE--HE DOES A FAR BETTER JOB THAT NITWITS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THEY ARE SLOPPY, CARELESS & FOCUSED ON THEMSELVES.

That's my view of all this.  I was there.  I measured these people first hand.  And I was the expert in the field -- the field that Fetzer and his fellow operatives succeeded in muddying and stinking to protect the real killers of 9-11. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.  THIS MAN IS A FRAUD AND A PHONY AND, AS I HAVE DEMONSTRATED HERE AGAIN AND AGAIN, A BIG-TIME LIAR FOR PRETENDING TO KNOW WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW.  HE HAS HIS "FACTS FOXED". INDEED, IT IS WORSE THAT THAT. HE IS MAKING ALL THIS UP.
Don't let Fetzer impress you with what he learned from us  -- because he uses all of the good arguments we gave him when he goes to another country  -- because first he has to make himself credible  -- that is why sometimes he sounds like one of the real investigators  -- he has had a lot of contact with us  -- but then he turns, as he turned on Jones and starts sabotaging with his usual counter-intelligence measures the people who invited him to speak. DICK EASTMAN HAS CONSIGNED HIMSELF TO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY. I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED A MORE IRRESPONSIBLE MAN IN THE HISTORY OF 9/11 RESEARCH.  HE HAS DISCREDITED HIMSELF WITH HIS RUBBISH.

End of story.  Save this for the history books.  YES. LET THE HISTORY BOOKS RECORD THAT DICK EASTMAN WAS SO PREOCCUPIED WITH PROMOTING HIS OWN IMAGE AND PACIFYING HIS INSATIABLE EGO THAT HE EVEN ATTACKED THOSE WHO WERE DOING MORE TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF 9/11 TRUTH THAN HE AND HIS IGNORANT FRIEND ANTHONY LAWSON COULD POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE OF THEIR LAÇK OF KNOWLEDGE OF PHYSICS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL NEEDS.  IT IS ALL THE MORE A PITY, BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH INTELLIGENT MEN WHO, HAD THEY NOT ABUSED THEIR TALENTS, MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY AMOUNTED TO SOMETHING.  I HAVE OFTEN EXTOLLED THE VIRTUES OF "THIS IS AN ORANGE", BUT THAT CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN MORE THAN OFFSET BY ANTHONY'S OWN ENDLESS OBSESSION WITH ATTACKING ME FOR HIS IGNORANCE OF PHYSICS, WHICH APPEARS TO BE EXCEEDED ONLY BY EASTMAN'S INSATIABLE QUEST TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR IMMENSE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT EXIST ONLY IN HIS MIND.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
P.S. ON ANTHONY LAWSON, SEE "9/11: An Open Letter to Anthony Lawson about 'Absurdities'".
Dick Eastman and I are going to have a public debate over whether or not the Twin Towers were hit by Boeing 767s, which he claims is true but I deny. It will be held on The Mike Harris Show on Thursday, 18 July 2013, from 3-5 PM/CT on the Rense Radio Network. So those who care about these issues may want to join us.  It will be a two-hour program with the time to speak allocated impartially between us about this contentious issue.  Here is a link to the original in the archives. A clean version without breaks and commercials may be found here, with my comments on the debate.




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Why Snowden Matters: National Security vs. The National Security State

Posted on 12:26 by som

By Jim Fetzer and PressTV


"Snowden is not revealing information that places the national security of the nation at stake but information revealing the NSA has instead been tracking enemies of the national security state."

The most obvious responses to Edward Snowden's revelations that the NSA has been conducting massive and all-pervasive surveillance of the American people--and, indeed, of targeted populations abroad--have come from those, such as Sens. Diane Feinstein (D-CA), John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsay Graham (R-SC), who maintain that he is placing the national security of the United States at risk.

There is no evidence that that is the case, where the very idea that the world's greatest spying agency would attempt to have him prosecuted for espionage is at least faintly absurd.

Other less-familiar sources have taken the opposite tact by asserting that, since everything he has revealed was "already known", his integrity and sincerity are in doubt, where he may actually be some kind of dupe or double-agent.  The Anti-New York Times, for example, contends that he cannot have abandoned his $200,000 a year salary, his girl friend and his life to tell the world such familiar information, which makes his actions highly suspicious from the opposite side of the spectrum.

That strikes me as very odd, since no one I know has ever taken for granted that the NSA had such an all-encompassing surveillance program in place, especially one that vacuums up our phone calls, our emails, our financial transactions and, no doubt, our medical records as well.  A more intriguing proposal has come from Jon Rappoport, "Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through", who considers the situation to be completely preposterous:
Let’s see. NSA is the most awesome spying agency ever devised in this world. If you cross the street in Podunk, Anywhere, USA, to buy an ice cream soda, on a Tuesday afternoon in July, they know.
They know if you sit at the counter and drink that soda or take it and move to the only table in the store. They know if you lick the foam from the top of the glass with your tongue or pick the foam with your straw and then lick it.They know if you keep the receipt for the soda or leave it on the counter.
They know whether you’re wearing shoes or sneakers. They know the brand of your underwear. They know your shaving cream, and precisely which container it came out of.
But this agency, with all its vast power and its dollars…
Can’t track one of its own, a man who came to work every day, a man who made up a story about needing treatment in Hong Kong for epilepsy and then skipped the country.
Just can’t find him.
Rappoport believes that these revelations come from the CIA, which is engaged in a "turf war" with the NSA, resenting that the NSA has been granted funding at the expense of the CIA, for which it is now engaged in retaliation by embarrassing it.None of those who question Snowden's actions, however, are responding to the implicit distinction that his revelations have accented between "national security", on the one hand, and "the national security state", on the other.  

The targets the NSA has been focusing upon--such as veterans, Constitutionalists, Ron Paul supporters, NRA members and 9/11 Truthers--do not pose any threat to the national security of the United States.  What they pose is a threat to the imposition of a fascist military/police state of the kind the world has seen with The Fourth Reich and the former Soviet Union, where the NSA and DHS are two sides of the same fascistic coin.  

The situation appears to be dire, as I have sought to explain here.  We must take appropriate measures--which including arming ourselves for the conflict to come--by confronting the grim reality that his revelations have exposed. His true motivation was displayed when he said he was doing this because "I am an American"!

Why Edward Snowden is an American hero


by Dr. James Fetzer


"Edward Snowden is both an American and an international hero for speaking out against tyranny and the conversion of America into a fascist state. He deserves commendation, not prosecution."

The espionage charges against Edward Snowden for informing the American people and the world that the NSA has been conducting the most massive spying operation in history are completely baseless and absurd.
Snowden is not revealing information that places the national security of the nation at stake but information revealing the NSA has instead been tracking enemies of the national security state.

Those who seem to be the real targets of this surveillance program include veterans, Constitutionalists, NRA members, 9/11 Truthers, Ron Paul supporters, and any one else who might have both the courage, the integrity and the ability to resist the imposition of a new military police state under DHS. The latest figures about the “Main Core” list of political dissidents stands at around 8,000,000 today.


No domestic terrorist threat


We know from a report released by a subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Intelligence on 3 October 2012 that, after surveying 680 “fusion center” reports gathered from 2009-2010, it had discovered that there were no indications of any terrorist activity: NONE. ZILCH. NADA. NOT ONE! Yet this astounding data has yet to be broadcast or published by ABC, NBC, CBS, or CNN.

This sample, which was obtained under conditions that insured if any domestic terrorist activity had been taking place it would have been revealed, supports the statistical extrapolation that domestic terrorist activity in the United States is virtually non-existent.

It also explains why DHS and the FBI have had to fabricate phony events such as those at Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing, which were staged.


Unwarranted justifications


Even the claim by General Alexander, the head of the NSA, that this program had foiled 50 terrorist plots appears to be hokum. Ron Paul, for example, explained that it was an ad hoc exaggeration and that it included some 40 trivial events that were alleged to have occurred not in the United States but abroad and a story of an attempt to blow up Wall Street that has all the signs of another FBI fabricated event.

So the existence of a bona-fide domestic terrorist threat appears to be a cover-story to justify the most massive spying ever undertaking using enormous computer capabilities to accumulate information on our emails, our phone calls, our financial transactions and even (no doubt) our medical records. They want to know everything there is to know about each and every one of us to promote their own agenda.


DHS preparing for civil war


Everyone must know by now that DHS has acquired 2 billion rounds of .40 caliber hollow-point ammunition, which is not ever permissible in combat under the Hague Convention of 1899.

It has also obtained 2,700 light tanks of the kind deployed in Boston (in violation of Posse Comitatus) and 7,000 assault weapons (of the kind that gun control legislation has been proposed to ban). They are preparing for war.

DHS has even made special arrangements with funeral homes and mortuaries to handle “an excess of casualties” should hospitals and emergency care facilities be overwhelmed.

This can only be because the government is planning to take out or otherwise “neutralize” the enemies of the state that are being identified by means of its massive surveillance program, which Edward Snowden has revealed to us all.


(1) Violation of the 4th amendment


The first problem with this program is that blatantly violates the 4th amendment’s guarantee to freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures and a history of lower court decisions decreeing the right of citizens to privacy.

Rand Paul has spoken out eloquently about this and Snowden appears to have secret FISA court decisions that rule against the legality of the program that Obama is trying to defend.

Most Americans and others worldwide naively assume that the NSA scandal represents an excess of zeal in attempting to track down domestic terrorists who want to attack targets in America.

What they do not appreciate is that this has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with the national security state. They are not the same. From the perspective of DHS, veterans are potential terrorists.


(2) Potential for blackmail and manipulation


Those who say, “I have nothing to hide”, are being extremely naïve, because this surveillance program is complete. It was not designated as “Total Information Awareness” for nothing when first introduced by Admiral Poindexter.

The public outcry led to its re-designation as “Terrorist Information Awareness”, but that did not mean that anything had changed. The NSA wants to know everything about everyone so it can selectively use the information to control or modify our actions.

The use for the purpose of political blackmail ought to be obvious to anyone who knows, for example, that J. Edgar Hoover maintained sex dossiers on the members of Congress, while the Mafia kept one on him.

Relationships with girlfriends and mistresses, watching porn or having had an abortion are illustrations of the kinds of information that could be used to manipulate Senators, Presidents or the Courts.


(3) Surveillance programs privatized


Practically no one in the mass media has observed that Snowden had access to these records because he was working for a private firm, Booz Allen, which gave him opportunities to obtain data that a normal government program would not have allowed.

And most of our security and surveillance programs are run by Israeli companies, which is one of the mechanisms by which it controls our leaders.

When the US Senate voted 99-0 to support Israel should it decide to attack Iran in its own self-defense without adding that that would have to be in accordance with international law, it thereby violated not only the UN Charter but the US Constitution, which grants treaties, such as ours with the UN, the same status under the Constitution as the Constitution itself. It was a completely unjustifiable act given that Iran has no nuclear weapons program. But it was also an act of treason.

Real traitors


When Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) declares that the revelations by Edward Snowden are “not going to play out well for the national security interests of the United States”, therefore, she is not talking about the interests of the American people, who are entitled to have their privacy preserved and to be safe-guarded from blackmail and embarrassment. There is no legitimate national security interest that could not be better served by traditional procedures with warrants.

When Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA), Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), and (the usual suspects) Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham condemn Snowden for treason, they themselves are the ones who are violating the Constitution, their oaths of office and betraying the American people.

Edward Snowden is an American and international hero for speaking out against tyranny and the conversion of America into a fascist state. He deserves commendation, not prosecution.

NOTE: For a recent two-hour interview discussing these issues in detail and more, go to this link.

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JFK 50th: The keys to understanding his assassination

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by Jim Fetzer


On 22 November 2013, the Oswald Innocence Campaign will be hosting the premiere event to commemorate the 50th observance of the JFK assassination in Santa Barbara, CA, at the FessParker Doubletree Hotel (1-10:30 PM). Presenting cutting-edge research on the death of our 35th President, which holds the keys to understanding what took place, it will feature some of the best authors on some the most important evidence that clarifies and illuminates that tragic event in Dallas on 22 November 1963.

The research presented will advance extensive, detailed evidence establishing that the assassination of JFK was a “national security event”, which involved crucial elements of the most powerful institutions in the American government, including the CIA, the Joint Chiefs, the FBI and the Secret Service, who conspired with the Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans and Texas oil men to remove JFK from office and replace his policies with those of Lyndon Baines Johnson.

As Ralph Cinque has observed, this November 22nd, the government and the media are going to be going all out with the official lie about JFK--and with extreme prejudice. They are going to pull all the stops to promote the indefensible and long-disproven lie--one more stomach-churning time. What can we do to stand up to this evil pomposity? We can literally stand together--in Santa Barbara. We can come together and evoke the call for JFK truth.  A coup d-etat took place in 1963, and we have been living with the results of it for half a century--with millions of dead across the globe. With the death of John Kennedy, the US became a perpetual warfare state, and we live every day of our lives with the consequences of that monstrous fact. So, join us on this very special day to find strength in numbers, to make a blip on the national radar and take personal responsibility for disseminating the truth about JFK.


What you weren't supposed to ever know


The evidence that substantiates the scenario of the assassination as a national security event is extensive and compelling.  It has generated enormous resistance even within the JFK community, where several of those who will present their findings have been banned in a massive effort to suppress the truth and preserve the illusion that it was an event of a different kind, where the view that "the Mafia did it" or "the Cubans did it" or "the KGB did it" are frequently advanced, but where none of them could have effected the cover-up that was indispensable to convey the false impressions this conference will correct:
*  Lee Harvey Oswald was working for the government when he was framed for the death of JFK

* Photos and films allegedly taken during the assassination were altered to conceal the truth 

* Autopsy photos and X-rays were changed and faked to support a false account of the murder

* LBJ was a pivotal player--perhaps the pivotal player--who 
brought about the assassination

* George H.W. Bush was not only in Dealey Plaza but took an active role in carrying out the plot

* There were multiple shooters who tied the conspirators together to insure their mutual silence

* They included a Deputy Sheriff, an Air Force expert, an anti-Casto Cuban, a Police Officer and a Mafia shooter 

* LBJ's personal hit-man, who killed a dozen people for Lyndon, also appears to have been directly involved

* The Mafia could not have extended its reach into Bethesda Naval Hospital to alter X-rays and photographs

* Anti-Castro Cubans would have been unable to substitute someone else's brain for that of JFK

* While the KGB had the capability to alter films, it could not have gained access to the Zapruder film

The experts assembled for this unique conference--which will explain how it was done, who was responsible and why, and how it was covered up--have invested decades upon decades of their lives to research on crucial aspects of the case, including the medical, the ballistic, and the film and photographic evidence.  They include the leading authorities on the role of Lyndon Baines Johnson, on the involvement of George H.W. Bush, on the management of the cover-up, on the death of key witnesses intimately related to JFK and by others who personally knew the man accused of killing him.  If you are there, you will understand what went down.


It's Santa Barbara, not Dallas, for the 50th


The 8 hour program will consist of 6 1/2 hours of informative presentations followed by 1 1/2 hours of music, socializing, dancing, and fun. We will be commemorating but also celebrating both our awareness of JFK truth, our strong conviction that that truth shall prevail and that the “official fabrication" that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK shall not endure. We have chosen Santa Barbara because Dallas is going to be run "tighter than a drum" with regard to its public events and, in relation to research, the meetings to be held there will be dominated by nostalgia for the past, not by cutting-edge research.

Our stand is unequivocal: the hit was ordered by the highest levels of government, including key figures in the CIA, the FBI, the US military and from within Kennedy’s own administration, including his own Vice President, Lyndon B. Johnson. Precisely as he claimed, Oswald was "a patsy":  he was framed to distract attention from those who were responsible.  He was even captured in a famous photograph standing in the doorway at the time of the shots, which is one of the key findings that the government has tried to suppress for the past 50 years.  We will present proof making all of this beyond a reasonable doubt.

The exact site is the elegant Fess Parker Doubletree Hotel, which is right on the beach in the resort area of Santa Barbara. It is a spectacular 5-star hotel. The program will be presented from 1-5:30 PM, with an hour and a half break for dinner, and then continue from 7-9 PM, followed socializing and dancing, with music by The Pacific Coast Blues Band, including a performance of their new song, "He Didn’t Do It", an anthem for JFK truth. The conference will also include a photographic exhibit with large productions of detailed studies by Richard Hooke, Ralph Cinque, Donald Fallon and Larry Rivera.  For information about reservations, send an email to Ralph Cinque at oswaldinnocent@yahoo.com. It is advisable to book space early.
 

THE SPEAKERS: "JFK: The Assassination of America"


1-2 PM: Phil Nelson, “The Pivotal Role of LBJ in the Death of JFK”


Phillip F. Nelson is the author of LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination (2nd revised edition, 2011), in which he explains that Lyndon Baines Johnson was the cardinal instigator of the plot to kill JFK. LBJ forced his way onto the ticket as the Vice Presidential nominee in Los Angeles in 1960, telling reporters that he had studied history and had discovered that 1/4 of US Presidents had not survived their terms.  He said he was "a gambling man", but LBJ only bet on sure things. Phillip explains how Johnson was uniquely positioned to assemble the key men--from the financiers to the operational planners and the cover-up experts--to complete the job. And it was all done at the expense of a "patsy" named Lee Harvey Oswald.
 

2-3 PM: John Hankey, "What was George H.W. Bush doing in Dealey Plaza?"


John Hankey, an expert on the role of George H.W. Bush in the assassination of JFK, has produced and directed "JFK II: The Bush Connection" (2003), which is also known as "Dark Legacy: George Bush and the Murder of John Kennedy".  He also authored "Was George H.W. Bush involved in the assassination of JFK?" (2011).  John has been teaching history and English in the Los Angeles City school system for nearly three decades, including exploring alternative approaches that suggest revisions to what passes for “history” in the courses and texts that are used for instruction in American history.
 

3-4 PM: Peter Janney, "Tying Up Loose Ends: The Murder of Mary Meyer”


Peter Janney grew up in Washington D.C. during the Cold War era of the 1950s and 1960s. His father Wistar was a senior career CIA official. The Janney family was intimately involved with many of the Washington political elite that included the family of Mary and Cord Meyer, as well as other high-ranking CIA officials such as Richard Helms, James Jesus Angleton, Tracy Barnes, Desmond FitzGerald, and William Colby. In his gripping book, Mary's Mosaic (2012), Peter illuminates the magnitude of real-life evil perpetrated by the CIA far beyond that which most of us could never imagine. A graduate of Princeton, Peter is a clinical psychologist who lives by the sea in Beverly, Massachusetts.
 

4-4:30 PM: Ralph Cinque, "Photo Fakery: Morphing Oswald into Lovelady"


Ralph C. Cinque has worked in the health field as a chiropractor and health spa operator, and he is the former president of an international physicians' group. Ralph has also been an avid student of the JFK assassination for many years, and he has had a series of articles on the assassination published on Veterans Today and on LewRockwell.com.  It was his observation that the clothing that Doorman was wearing rather than his facial features was the key to his identification, which has proven to be exactly right.  He has been the moving force behind and the founder of the Oswald Innocence Campaign.
 

4:30-5 PM: Larry Rivera, "The Pervasive Role of Buell Wesley Frazier"


Larry Rivera, the son of a career military man who served as CID officer in the Army, was residing in Germany on 22 November  1963 and, at age 6, will never forget his father's reaction upon hearing of JFK's murder: "Johnson!" Larry is a Certified Network Engineer, who also owns an automotive wholesale parts business. He has made a lifelong study of the JFK assassination.  He first visited Dealey Plaza in 1991 and  subsequently attended The ASK Symposium in 1993 for the 30th observance. He has done extensive work on Billy Lovelady and on Joe Molina and recently published on Buell Wesley Frazier and the Altgens6.
 

5-5:30 PM: QUESTIONS FOR THE AFTERNOON SPEAKERS


5:30-7 PM: BREAK FOR DINNER


7-8:00 PM: Judyth Vary Baker, “Lee H. Oswald and JFK: My Reflections”


Judyth Vary Baker, a brilliant science student from Manatee High School, Bradenton, FL, was recruited by Dr. Alton Ochsner to come to New Orleans and contribute to a research project to develop a rapidly-acting cancer that could be used as a bio-weapon to assassinate Fidel Castro.  She became involved with Lee H. Oswald, David Ferrie and Dr. Mary Sherman, where her life at that time has been recorded in a fascinating book by Edward Haslam, Dr. Mary's Monkey (2007) and in her own autobiographical study, Me & Lee (2011). She has published a new book on David Ferrie (2013). A bio-sketch of Judyth may be found at amazon.com, while many video interviews with her have been gathered together and linked to a special issue of assassinationresearch.com. Judyth will appear via Skype.
 

8-9:00 PM: James H. Fetzer, "JFK: The Assassination of America"


James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., a former Marine Corps officer and McKnight University Professor Emeritus on the Duluth Campus of the University of Minnesota, has chaired or co-chaired four national conferences on the death of JFK. He produced the 4.5-hour long documentary JFK: The Assassination, the Cover-Up, and Beyond (1994), as well as edited Assassination Science (1998), Murder in Dealey Plaza (2000) and The Great Zapruder Film Hoax (2003). Jim co-edits assassinationresearch.com, an on-line journal for the advanced study of the death of JFK, with John P. Costella, Ph.D. His columns on Veterans Today, including on JFK, are widely read.

Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer and retired university professor, is a journalist and editor for Veterans Today. Questions about the conference may also be directed to him at jfetzer@d.umn.edu.
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